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The start

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- This place is called the philosophy commune because Its more focused on the philosophy and - how it interacts with communism then it is with the politics. Its a common misunderstanding - that marxism is some crazy cult like political ideology (some marxist groups are tbh) though - if you read any real writing of Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels you will find mostly philosophy - and it being applied in more abstract ways instead of the lies we have been given. To understand - topics like economics and politics its important to first understand philosophy as the base for - everything else. Start out at any wikipedia page and continue clicking the first link - and you will either reach the philosophy wiki page or get stuck in a endless loop. -

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The start

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+ This place is called the philosophy commune because Its more focused on the philosophy and + how it interacts with communism then it is with the politics. Its a common misunderstanding + that marxism is some crazy cult like political ideology (some marxist groups are tbh) though + if you read any real writing of Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels you will find mostly philosophy + and it being applied in more abstract ways instead of the lies we have been given. To understand + topics like economics and politics its important to first understand philosophy as the base for + everything else. Start out at any wikipedia page and continue clicking the first link + and you will either reach the philosophy wiki page or get stuck in a endless loop. +

- Every complete ideology has a base made up of more abstract philosophy. For example classical and neo - liberalism has many layers like right of the individual and private property rights and the way - liberalism treats it is more or less connected to christian ideas like the idea that some people - are closer to god then others so under liberalism right of the individual is more then just freedom - but the idea that some people are narcissisticly above others and that government limiting there - power over other people is going against nature or "gods will" in a sense. Because of this - liberalism allows for people to do nothing but limit rights and freedom, call it rights and - freedom, then get away from it. "Oh no, a new law proteching users from having google - forcefully installing a microship in peoples heads is going to hurt googles holy rights - and god given status over the people. This is anti-american to give people that choice - to not have google install microchips in there head". As you can see there are many layers to - liberalism like the often misunderstood morals and bits of christian ideas and much more - I will not get into now and BTW when I target liberalism I am also targetting conservatism - because conservatism is still a form of liberalism. -

- - Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels created a philosophy called dialectical materialism and - used it for historical materialism which is how they understood history and they used - this to understand how society changes in mainly western countries (Russia wasn't really - included in this so they had to work off of dialectical materialism and build up there - own home cooked appied ideas for there revolution). With there philosophy marx and - engels analyzed there current capitalist society and understanding of how - the bourgeoisie (capital owning class) and proletariat (working class) interact - with each other and found the exploitation between the two and how it upholds - capitalism. Marx and Engels believe that like how the bourgeoisie lead a - revolution to gain freedom from the kings and lords of the past the - proletariat leading there own revolution for freedom from the bourgeoisie - is needed for society to progress. The philosophy behind liberalism should - make more sense now knowing that liberalism is the ideology of the - bourgeoisie class. -

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+ Every complete ideology has a base made up of more abstract philosophy. For example classical and neo + liberalism has many layers like right of the individual and private property rights and the way + liberalism treats it is more or less connected to christian ideas like the idea that some people + are closer to god then others so under liberalism right of the individual is more then just freedom + but the idea that some people are narcissisticly above others and that government limiting there + power over other people is going against nature or "gods will" in a sense. Because of this + liberalism allows for people to do nothing but limit rights and freedom, call it rights and + freedom, then get away from it. "Oh no, a new law proteching users from having google + forcefully installing a microship in peoples heads is going to hurt googles holy rights + and god given status over the people. This is anti-american to give people that choice + to not have google install microchips in there head". As you can see there are many layers to + liberalism like the often misunderstood morals and bits of christian ideas and much more + I will not get into now and BTW when I target liberalism I am also targetting conservatism + because conservatism is still a form of liberalism. +

+ + Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels created a philosophy called dialectical materialism and + used it for historical materialism which is how they understood history and they used + this to understand how society changes in mainly western countries (Russia wasn't really + included in this so they had to work off of dialectical materialism and build up there + own home cooked appied ideas for there revolution). With there philosophy marx and + engels analyzed there current capitalist society and understanding of how + the bourgeoisie (capital owning class) and proletariat (working class) interact + with each other and found the exploitation between the two and how it upholds + capitalism. Marx and Engels believe that like how the bourgeoisie lead a + revolution to gain freedom from the kings and lords of the past the + proletariat leading there own revolution for freedom from the bourgeoisie + is needed for society to progress. The philosophy behind liberalism should + make more sense now knowing that liberalism is the ideology of the + bourgeoisie class. +

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The abstract

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+ Before getting into dialectical materialism and that stuff I will go into my own ideas + which are even more abstract but a good place to build on to understand the dialectics. + Just bare with me while I throw your brain into a microwave and forgot about it for a + while without even knowing its burning (like the way microwave popcorn got banned at + school). +

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Verbs and nouns

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+ In english we rely on nouns a lot to talk about things. Everytime we use a noun + we are refecancing a thing or idea so we can talk about it. We can talk about + how the thing looks like x-mas barf, smells like a dogs ass (I don't want to know + how you know what a dogs ass smells like), feels like the random + thing you found outside you wish you didn't touch...
+ but what if I told you there are other ways to talk about things!
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+ A language where everything is called out by the action of it existing could exist. + While the grammer of english is yelling a big "fuck you!" (like with everything I write) + something like instead of "its a cat" "it be a cat" could exist and be normalized in the grammer + and have the words planned out for it to make sense in its context. Also languages can have no verbs + sense nouns also cover ideas so instead of the action of running it would be the idea of running. + Take a look at + how lojban handles this shit for some mind opening ideas. +

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Overthinking shit

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+ I shall start us with a simple math problem: x^2=1 solve for x. It has two correct answers: + x=1 and x=-1. If something like this pops up in a math problem you can only use 1 or -1 + for the problem and it will effect the final requests of the problem though entail you + solve it the problem is in a state of having two possible outcomes. Its just like Schrödinger's cat + where you have a box with the dead/alive cat in it you can walk around town with your + funky little dead/alive cat, go on a romantic date with your dead/alive cat, throw it into + oncoming traffic to know for sure its fucking dead /hj... but entail you open the box its + in a state of both but once its open you have a dead cat or a alive cat like how x^2=1 + is both 1 and -1 entail used. +

+ Another idea to think about is numbers like pi. If you + have a forumal for pi you bascially have every single digit of pi in a set of instructions + but you can't use them. You have to apply the forumal first but it will go on forever + if you do that so x+generate_pi() wouldn't work. Instead you would only use so many + digits of pi like this x+generate_pi(16) for 16 digits. We could in place of every + magic number use a generator to be able to fine tune how everything is generated and + applied. To keep everything constantant we could use generators for every number and + treat operators as functions and use things like lazy evaluation, + strict evaluation... to direction the flow of are logic for whatever we are doing. + You can read about this kind of stuff in + + Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs. +

+ To continue with my madness + we could compare this to the verb and noun thing and say that functions are like verbs + and numbers are like nouns. yet we refecance the function as a noun and its made up of + instructions which are things but those things are verbs because they define the actions + of doing things then we can grab that logic of it being a refrecance to the thing then + go through the same steps on the instructions... what doth life?! +

+ Back to x^2=1 there are things I call logic gabs. Are society pushes a very linear and isolated + "if this and that then that and this" kind of logic. Peoples minds get fried when shown things + like x^2=1 kind of like a computer going mad when asked "what doth life?!". While more standard + thinking is more newton cradle like with "this causes that" we live in a world that is closer + to a bunch of marbles of different sizes thrown into a box then shaked around and thrown everywhere. + Talking about what causes what is too much for are tiny stupido minds to understand with all those + marbles getting thrown around so instead we can think about the relationship between the marbles + and how they interact with each other. We could look at the way the big and small marbles react + when they hit each other and how it effects the movement of the marbles in the box. There is no + supreme lord marble or any of that shit. Just a bunch of marbles getting fucked up when I + decide to throw the box into oncoming traffic. +

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The abstract

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- Before getting into dialectical materialism and that stuff I will go into my own ideas - which are even more abstract but a good place to build on to understand the dialectics. - Just bare with me while I throw your brain into a microwave and forgot about it for a - while without even knowing its burning (like the way microwave popcorn got banned at - school). -

-

Verbs and nouns

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- In english we rely on nouns a lot to talk about things. Everytime we use a noun - we are refecancing a thing or idea so we can talk about it. We can talk about - how the thing looks like x-mas barf, smells like a dogs ass (I don't want to know - how you know what a dogs ass smells like), feels like the random - thing you found outside you wish you didn't touch...
- but what if I told you there are other ways to talk about things!
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Overthinking shit

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- I shall start us with a simple math problem: x^2=1 solve for x. It has two correct answers: - x=1 and x=-1. If something like this pops up in a math problem you can only use 1 or -1 - for the problem and it will effect the final requests of the problem though entail you - solve it the problem is in a state of having two possible outcomes. Its just like Schrödinger's cat - where you have a box with the dead/alive cat in it you can walk around town with your - funky little dead/alive cat, go on a romantic date with your dead/alive cat, throw it into - oncoming traffic to know for sure its fucking dead /hj... but entail you open the box its - in a state of both but once its open you have a dead cat or a alive cat like how x^2=1 - is both 1 and -1 entail used. -

- Another idea to think about is numbers like pi. If you - have a forumal for pi you bascially have every single digit of pi in a set of instructions - but you can't use them. You have to apply the forumal first but it will go on forever - if you do that so x+generate_pi() wouldn't work. Instead you would only use so many - digits of pi like this x+generate_pi(16) for 16 digits. We could in place of every - magic number use a generator to be able to fine tune how everything is generated and - applied. To keep everything constantant we could use generators for every number and - treat operators as functions and use things like lazy evaluation, - strict evaluation... to direction the flow of are logic for whatever we are doing. - You can read about this kind of stuff in - - Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs. -

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