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author | nathan <nathansmith@disroot.org> | 2025-06-17 10:26:57 -0600 |
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committer | nathan <nathansmith@disroot.org> | 2025-06-17 10:26:57 -0600 |
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diff --git a/org/xmpp-and-mumble.org b/org/xmpp-and-mumble.org index 5814df7..bae5adb 100644 --- a/org/xmpp-and-mumble.org +++ b/org/xmpp-and-mumble.org @@ -13,20 +13,19 @@ Platforms like [[https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord][discord]], face ads. Their apps are slow and buggy and often require you to pay to unlock basic features. Its time we stop putting up with this! Many people are scared of trying alterative platforms but I would like to show you some of them are quite -good once you understand them. - -* What is xmpp and mumble? -:PROPERTIES: -:CUSTOM_ID: what-is -:END: +good once you understand them. *You dont need to be a hacker or programmer to +use xmpp. Just like any other platform all you have to do is install a app, +make a account, and start chatting!*\\ +\\ +*--\gt [[#installing-xmpp][Skip the fluff and nerd stuff]] \lt--* -** xmpp +* What is xmpp? :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: what-is-xmpp :END: xmpp also know as jabber is a free and opensource chat protocol. Its very customizable, extendable, and allows people to host there own chat services -instead of using ones that spy on you like discord.\\ +instead of using ones that spy on you like discord and facebook.\\ \\ Think of it like email: not everyone needs to be on the same email service to send mail to each other. You can send mail to your friend who uses outlook @@ -35,7 +34,8 @@ email client like thunderbird. xmpp works a lot like that except for messaging instead of mail. There are many different xmpp apps and many different xmpp services and whatever ones you choose will not impact who you can chat with!\\ \\ -Every user has a jabber id which is just name@server kind of like email.\\ +Every user has a jabber id (JID) which is just name@server kind of like +email.\\ \\ A MUC (multi user chat) is bascially just what groupchats are called in xmpp. MUCs also have jabber ids.\\ @@ -48,74 +48,39 @@ arent very private anyways.\\ Anyways if you are still confussed and want youtube to explain it to you watch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GurbaZzwYvU][this strangely helpful but boring video]]. -** mumble -:PROPERTIES: -:CUSTOM_ID: what-is-mumble -:END: -[[https://www.mumble.info][mumble]] is a free and open source voice chat protocol. Its known for being low -latency and high quality. Its much faster and more reliable than discord vc -along with not having any of the spyware. Its also easy to host yourself and -doesnt require any accounts! While xmpp has voice chat not all xmpp clients -support it and it can often suck setting up compared to mumble which is -reliable and easy as fuck to use. - -* Installing and using xmpp +* Installing xmpp :PROPERTIES: -:CUSTOM_ID: installing-and-using-xmpp +:CUSTOM_ID: installing-xmpp :END: -Since this is a noob guide I will ensure you these are the offical sources for -the clients since many of you are scared of fucking up your computer.\\ -\\ -*All of these will require you make a account on a xmpp server*. While I do run -a xmpp server I dont provide accounts. If your client doesnt provide a xmpp -server some of my favorites are [[https://jabber.hot-chilli.net][hot-chilli]] and [[https://disroot.org][disroot]]. When looking for other -servers watch out because some servers are slow, shitty, and lack features.\\ -\\ -For more information check out [[https://digdeeper.club/articles/xmpp.xhtml][diggy's xmpp guide]]. ** Desktop (linux, mac, and windows) :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: xmpp-on-desktop :END: -For desktop the most user friendly xmpp client is gajim. You can download it -[[https://gajim.org/download/][here]]. Here is the part where I say *figure it out yourself*. After you -download and install it you will be asked to create a account and all of that -shit. Check out what I said above about servers. If you need help using gajim -look [[https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/wikis/help/Help][here]]. Gajim also has a OMEMO plugin. +For desktop the most user friendly xmpp app is gajim. You can install it +through the [[https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pggf6hd43f9?ocid=webpdpshare][microsoft store]] or download it [[https://gajim.org/download/][here]]. ** Andriod :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: xmpp-on-andriod :END: -For andriod the easiest xmpp client is [[https://conversations.im][conversations]]. The google play store +For andriod the easiest xmpp app is [[https://conversations.im][conversations]]. The google play store version costs money but you can get conversations for free on [[https://f-droid.org][f-droid]]. f-droid -is a app store for free and open source apps. Conversations default server is -pretty good so just so that unless you want something different or already have -an account somewhere else. To enable OMEMO go to the hamburger -menu->Encryption->OMEMO when messaging someone. +is a app store for free and open source apps. ** iOS :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: xmpp-on-ios :END: -[[https://chatsecure.org][chatsecure]] +[[https://chatsecure.org][chatsecure]] seems to be a decent choice for iOS. -** Web clients +** xmpp in your web browser :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: xmpp-on-the-web :END: -hot-chilli, disroot, and other xmpp servers provide clients that run in your -web browser. If you are a giant noob and cant install a program on your -computer or use a shitty chromebook web clients are your last hope. - -** After installing a client -:PROPERTIES: -:CUSTOM_ID: after-installing-xmpp -:END: -Join my MUC at =jnrel@conference.shittyweb.org=\\ -tbh I dont have the time to -explain the in's and out's of every client listed here so just mess around and -search shit on the internet to find out (: +xmpp services like [[https://jabber.hot-chilli.net][hot-chilli]] and [[https://disroot.org][disroot]] provide a web app. They arent as good +as desktop or mobile apps but they do allow you to use xmpp on your heavily +bubble wrapped and locked down school/work computer and chromebooks. ** Other clients :PROPERTIES: @@ -123,12 +88,36 @@ search shit on the internet to find out (: :END: The clients I put here arent the ones I personally use since I wanted to show more user friendly ones. I use [[file:linux-room.org::#psi-plus][psi+]] and cheogram. You can find a big list of -xmpp clients [[https://xmpp.org/software][here]]. +xmpp clients [[https://xmpp.org/software][here]] if you want more options. + +* Making a xmpp account +:PROPERTIES: +:CUSTOM_ID: making-a-xmpp-account +:END: +After installing a app it will ask you to make a account. *Dont panic.* When it +asks you for a server thats just the place your account will be. Think of it +like email vs outlook vs yahoo... *Some good xmpp servers are [[https://jabber.hot-chilli.net][hot-chilli]], +[[https://account.conversations.im][conversations.im]], and [[https://disroot.org][disroot]].* You can find more options [[https://providers.xmpp.net][here]]. + +* Using xmpp +:PROPERTIES: +:CUSTOM_ID: using-xmpp +:END: +Now that you have xmpp installed and account made join my MUCs +(groupchats). You can find a big list of MUCs [[https://search.jabber.network/channels/1][here]].\\ +\\ +My MUCs: ++ jnrel@conference.shittyweb.org ++ memes@conference.shittyweb.org * Installing and using mumble :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: installing-and-using-mumble :END: +xmpp voice chat works but mumble is better. Mumble is a very fast and reliable +voice chat app. It will even work on your slow shitty internet. *You dont even +need an account to use mumble!*\\ +\\ You can download mumble [[https://www.mumble.info/downloads][here]]. The setup process looks scary but it isnt too bad.\\ \\ |